Friday, May 23, 2008

Obama Gaffes

Jack Wheeler recounts some of the classics including below.



And from Krauthammer today,
Having lashed himself to the ridiculous, unprecedented promise of unconditional presidential negotiations -- and then having compounded the problem by elevating it to a principle -- Obama keeps trying to explain. On Sunday, he declared in Pendleton, Ore., that by Soviet standards Iran and others "don't pose a serious threat to us." (On the contrary. Islamic Iran is dangerously apocalyptic. Soviet Russia was not.) The next day in Billings, Mont.: "I've made it clear for years that the threat from Iran is grave."

That's the very next day, mind you. Such rhetorical flailing has done more than create an intellectual mess. It has given rise to a new political phenomenon: the metastatic gaffe. The one begets another, begets another, begets ...


Update: Also Lynn Sweet from a year ago. We have long experience with 'em in Chiago.

5 comments:

Dr Bermangolu said...

"On the contrary. Islamic Iran is dangerously apocalyptic. Soviet Russia was not."

Nonsense. Name a war that Iran has been in in the last, say, two centuries.

When the Reds were running loose, you guys said that they were apocalyptic, remember?

Bill Baar said...

Iran and Iraq fought one of the biggest of the 20the Century.

Matthias Küntzel was reminded of it by Ahmadinejad's current behavior,

In pondering the behavior of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, I cannot help but think of the 500,000 plastic keys that Iran imported from Taiwan during the Iran-Iraq War of 1980-88. At the time, an Iranian law laid down that children as young as 12 could be used to clear mine fields. Before every mission, a plastic key would be hung around each of the children’s necks. It was supposed to open for them the gates to paradise.

No post-Stalin soviet leader was prepared to sacrifice the soviet people like that.

Dr Bermangolu said...

"Iran and Iraq fought one of the biggest of the 20the Century."

Refresh my memory. Was that the war where Iran invaded Israel?

Who started that war, anyway?

Also, who armed the Iranians with surface to air missiles?

Finally, what sort of control does Ahmadinejed have over the government and military in Iran??

Bill Baar said...

Refresh my memory. Was that the war where Iran invaded Israel?

No, in fact quite the contrary if you recall as you claim to be my contemporary. From the Jewish virtual library,

The most unlikely country to support Iran was Israel, given that the revolutionary government had replaced the country's longstanding alliance with an obsessive and hostile Anti-Zionism. Still, the Israelis did provide some arms to their Iranian enemies. Why?

Two main reasons:

One is that Israel often subscribes to the Middle East dictum, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend," and Iraq was viewed as a more immediate danger.

A large number of Jews remained in Iran, and the Israelis hoped to essentially buy their safety while covert and not-so-covert efforts were undertaken throughout the war to get Iranian Jews out of the country.


Who started that war, anyway?

Saddam invaded.

Also, who armed the Iranians with surface to air missiles?

The Hawks and TOWs went to Iran via Israel under the Arms for Hostages plan. The hostages by the way were in Lebanon and held by Hezbollah. You doubted Irans meddling in Lebanon using Hezbollah as I recall.

Finally, what sort of control does Ahmadinejed have over the government and military in Iran??

Big question and part of the instablity, the threat posed by Iran, is no one is exactly sure. Unlike Pakistan were the military says they have the keys to the nukes and everyone seems to believe that... I doubt anyone will feel the same assurance with the mish mash of a gov over in Iran.

Dr Bermangolu said...

"Unlike Pakistan were the military says they have the keys to the nukes and everyone seems to believe that... I doubt anyone will feel the same assurance with the mish mash of a gov over in Iran."

I'm afraid that the only mishmash is in your head. You need to read some more. There is no confusion about who is in control. And it isn't Ahmadinejed.